tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7060436128493311648.post8378215403114303398..comments2023-10-26T08:19:37.080-04:00Comments on Daddy Knows Less: Class WarfareDaddy Knows Lesshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15703414937384078870noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7060436128493311648.post-91166284740508737702011-11-04T21:24:39.271-04:002011-11-04T21:24:39.271-04:00Though I do realize your post is older, forgive me...Though I do realize your post is older, forgive me, I'm catching up. Mr. Biden never ceases to amaze me at his unpolished, tactless approach.<br />To this day, I'm still trying to conceive why he's V.P.<br />To solicit an innocent group of fourth graders for his agenda is beyond me as well.<br />Perhaps they are still polite enough to listen to his "Biden-isms."Kate's Kitchenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15628468729566864997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7060436128493311648.post-38380410369850975902011-10-24T22:23:24.964-04:002011-10-24T22:23:24.964-04:00Wow, what a fascinating post! I have a degree of ...Wow, what a fascinating post! I have a degree of sympathy with all the views expressed in the original post and the comments. It took me a while to work out what I really think about this. (Disclosure: I'm a left-leaning Brit living in the USA) I've concluded that it *is* appropriate for people to present political views to kids of any age, just as it is appropriate to present Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7060436128493311648.post-41064023715762562102011-10-24T13:34:22.288-04:002011-10-24T13:34:22.288-04:00Dan, I never said 'the VP was out of line goin...Dan, I never said 'the VP was out of line going there in the first place.' Maybe you're referring to another comment? Not sure. Anyway, you raise a good point about everyone bringing their "politics" into a discussion one way or another. But I don't think they were exposed to the 'facts of life in this country' in this instance. You also raise a good point about Daddy Knows Lesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15703414937384078870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7060436128493311648.post-61336750830400465742011-10-24T13:12:57.281-04:002011-10-24T13:12:57.281-04:00I agree with your post to some extent, but this is...I agree with your post to some extent, but this is utter crap: "The VP was out of line going there in the first place." <br /><br />It may be out of line to talk about their current agenda, but having no contact with children whatsoever is just denying opportunities to kids that can be valuable teachable moments. Where was your outrage during Bush, Clinton, Bush, or Reagan -- all of Dannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7060436128493311648.post-14620519761509990532011-10-24T13:04:10.791-04:002011-10-24T13:04:10.791-04:00I agree, Cheryl. I would have been writing or call...I agree, Cheryl. I would have been writing or calling someone the next day if that were my kid's school. AND to the anonymous commenter above: judging by the looks on their faces, you are spot on. LOL.Daddy Knows Lesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15703414937384078870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7060436128493311648.post-53490715751279507962011-10-24T12:42:05.801-04:002011-10-24T12:42:05.801-04:00well all i can say is, probably to most of these k...well all i can say is, probably to most of these kids he was some boring old guy and they didn't listen to anything he was saying... so i really dont think there is too much to worry about. not that i agree with what he did, i dont.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7060436128493311648.post-76771515615796472832011-10-24T12:32:05.940-04:002011-10-24T12:32:05.940-04:00While you're faulting Mr. Biden, as well you s...While you're faulting Mr. Biden, as well you should, this also seems to be an epic fail on the part of the administration for letting him make that speech. I would be banging out letters to the press and the Board of Education or whoever has oversight of that school. Totally inappropriate. I have so many friends that home school their children these days. I wish I had had the Cherylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17277830610965665877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7060436128493311648.post-66020766067538811772011-10-24T12:25:14.236-04:002011-10-24T12:25:14.236-04:00Sealady, I think I was clear when I said I wasn...Sealady, I think I was clear when I said I wasn't sure what happened afterwards and that I was judging this at face value. And the sad thing is many of the people who read this post found out about Mr. Biden's little speech through DKL, not any mdeia outlet, where this was reported as a "visit to an elementary school in York, PA."<br /><br />Regardless of the discussion that mayDaddy Knows Lesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15703414937384078870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7060436128493311648.post-68769644855131973572011-10-24T12:17:27.095-04:002011-10-24T12:17:27.095-04:00At what point in our lives are we supposed to star...At what point in our lives are we supposed to start learning about politics and politicians? Where was the teacher of this class who could lead a discussion about free thinking and political agendas. This blog is a perfect example of propaganda, giving just enough info to inflame emotions but not enough to know what actually took place.sealadynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7060436128493311648.post-90444115560386705032011-10-24T12:05:18.992-04:002011-10-24T12:05:18.992-04:00Teaching kids about the process of "democracy...Teaching kids about the process of "democracy" is a great thing. I like that they do mock elections in school. I do NOT, however, appreciate political agendas being presented to our kids in this manner. Mr. Biden's time could have been better spent talking about how a bill becomes law, how the election process works, generalizations regarding party differences, etc... This seems Blondiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13276359036770298799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7060436128493311648.post-55421596005163135452011-10-24T11:40:35.590-04:002011-10-24T11:40:35.590-04:00Wowza. I can't believe anyone can find a defen...Wowza. I can't believe anyone can find a defense for this obvious gaffe of VP Biden's. I, too, lean to the left - and while I agree with his viewpoint, this was terribly inappropriate discussion for a classroom. I'll go so far as to say it would be terribly inappropriate if it were a classroom full of high-school seniors in an advanced civics/social studies classroom. Biden's no Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7060436128493311648.post-45460311896525746002011-10-24T11:28:37.943-04:002011-10-24T11:28:37.943-04:00The classroom is no place to push ANY agenda. EVER...The classroom is no place to push ANY agenda. EVER. Be it personal, political, or religious. I'd have been furious had I been a parent of one of those children. Fail, Mr. Biden. Epic Fail.MouthyBarberMomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04539307357684692962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7060436128493311648.post-38221103325163749382011-10-24T11:25:49.756-04:002011-10-24T11:25:49.756-04:00To a point, you are correct. However, I do think t...To a point, you are correct. However, I do think to some degree, its an important civics lesson. I seriously doubt it ever occurs to a child that teachers get paid for what they do, much less where the money comes from. It could easily have been approched from a non-political stance by pointing out that tax dollars pay for education, police, fire departments and roads rather than discussing how Azazlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04574029448548274107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7060436128493311648.post-82175844097252436672011-10-24T11:18:53.645-04:002011-10-24T11:18:53.645-04:00As a left learning independent, I have to say that...As a left learning independent, I have to say that I'm completely APPALLED at Joe Biden for doing this. You are so right. Disgusting. Politics have gotten so out of hand.Kimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11485570310550871974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7060436128493311648.post-19428179114562349382011-10-23T10:30:59.326-04:002011-10-23T10:30:59.326-04:00I would be mad too if my child was in that classro...I would be mad too if my child was in that classroom!!! Scratch that, I'm mad and my child is less than a year old! A 10 year old cannot grasp all of the political CRAP that is going on in our country and they shouldn't be forced to try either. I agree, read my child a book, play a game, talk about not doing drugs.. DO NOT talk to my child about your political game.brithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00121676016647092499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7060436128493311648.post-87091775354376305102011-10-23T10:20:30.214-04:002011-10-23T10:20:30.214-04:00Let me start off by saying that I do NOT believe t...Let me start off by saying that I do NOT believe that politics belong in our elementary schools. <br /><br />However... In my childrens' school they had an unofficial "vote" of their own with regards to elections in the 3rd grade. My son then asked my wife and I how we are voting. After picking my jaw up off the floor and letting him know that I was still pondering the decision. <brMunchhttp://www.musingsofmunch.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7060436128493311648.post-35807346165968914042011-10-22T17:30:45.910-04:002011-10-22T17:30:45.910-04:00I am engaged in politics because of my job in tv n...I am engaged in politics because of my job in tv news, Amy. And this really stuck out to me this week. as you probably gathered from my post, it pi$$ed me off. The sad thing to me is that I don't feel like any discussion was held during or after to present the opposing argument. Besides, can a 4th grader really grasp this issue? I don't think so.Daddy Knows Lesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15703414937384078870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7060436128493311648.post-77419100013784622012011-10-22T14:00:59.225-04:002011-10-22T14:00:59.225-04:00Ugh. I am so anti-political that it isn't even...Ugh. I am so anti-political that it isn't even funny - I avoid them at all cost. So yeah, this would totally piss me off if it was one of my kids' classes. Anything presented in a classroom needs to be age-appropriate to start with, and a political agenda is not for 4th graders.<br /><br />:)<br />AmyNon-Stop Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11019977789459727121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7060436128493311648.post-41117104369821406502011-10-22T10:44:34.691-04:002011-10-22T10:44:34.691-04:00Great comments! My wife and I don't agree on e...Great comments! My wife and I don't agree on everything politically. So why wouldn't we present both sides to Peanut and let her decide? Even on issues we agree with. <br /><br />We trust these people with our children and there's a certain level of expectation on what will and will not be "taught."Daddy Knows Lesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15703414937384078870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7060436128493311648.post-31523130438832129632011-10-22T10:41:40.622-04:002011-10-22T10:41:40.622-04:00I totally agree with you - politics should NOT be ...I totally agree with you - politics should NOT be pushed on children in the classroom. I have a lot more to say about this but I'm going to hold my tongue. Thanks for posting.<br /><br />Jamie<br /><a href="http://www.forloveofcupcakes.com" rel="nofollow">For Love of Cupcakes</a>Jamiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17592274706237574421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7060436128493311648.post-43273834207405746132011-10-22T10:16:26.065-04:002011-10-22T10:16:26.065-04:00Agree with you 100% DKL!!!Agree with you 100% DKL!!!Mommy in Lawhttp://mommyinlaw.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7060436128493311648.post-3297517377259759732011-10-22T09:53:19.787-04:002011-10-22T09:53:19.787-04:00It's absolutely disgusting that politicians of...It's absolutely disgusting that politicians of any party would use the classroom to push their platform. It's not teaching it's total propaganda and has ZERO business in a school. Wrong, wrong, wrong.Daddy's in Charge?https://www.blogger.com/profile/04798934647553198219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7060436128493311648.post-58492134577950626272011-10-22T09:26:27.490-04:002011-10-22T09:26:27.490-04:00Whether it's right or wrong, I don't plan ...<i>Whether it's right or wrong, I don't plan to instill my daughter with my beliefs. I want her to have her own.</i><br />Well put. Ditto with my son. <br /><br />I hadn't heard of this incident until just now, but it troubles me as well. <br /><br />Imagine if someone like MLK, Jr. had pushed party platforms instead of an ultimate message. A very different impact, don't you thinkDebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06036505968642985025noreply@blogger.com